I had a friend whose two-year-old son would always say, "Me want to play with dat," or "Me like dat." In all the time I spent with this friend and her son, I never once heard her politely correct him. However, the very day the boy turned three years old, my friend said in front of me, "Tell Laura what you know how to say now!" The little boy looked at me and said, "I like you!"
My friend beamed with pride. "See! Now he's old enough to use proper English!"
Given this little boy had already been speaking for well over a year, I wondered why my friend thought age three was "old enough" to teach him the proper pronoun. If a child is capable of stringing several words together, why not teach him how to do it correctly regardless of his age? Why, instead, allow him to get into the habit of using "me" when it's correct to use "I?" What was it about the age of three that was meaningful to her? Sadly, I'll never know the answers to my questions because, frankly, I didn't feel comfortable asking.
The reason I tell this story, however, is because I've experienced this same attitude when I speak with other parents about discipline (and by "discipline" I don't mean "punishment" but rather "instruction"). I've heard mothers say, "Well, she's 18 months now, so I think we're about ready to start disciplining her." What do parents really mean when they say this? Do they mean that for 18 months the child has experienced virtually no discipline, and then, quite suddenly, his or her whole way of interacting with his or her parents changes? If so, is this really fair to the child -- or the parents? By 18 months, habits of interaction between parent and child have been well established. For all parties involved to have to suddenly change those habits based on some arbitrary age is, well, unnecessary.
Mary, what's your take?
I think, when people say that a child is old enough that they can "start disciplining" him or her, what they really mean is the child is old enough to understand punishment. I doubt that most children have been completely undisciplined prior to this point - though certainly some are, poor kids! A parent who says this doesn't understand what discipline is, doesn't understand that in fact, they have been disciplining all along, from very early in the child's life.
The origin of the word "discipline" comes from a Latin word for "teach". Discipline is much more about teaching than punishing. Punishment is indeed one tool in the discipline toolbox, but it is not the only one, and it is far from the most important.
To me, discipline is all those interactions that teach a child to wait, to moderate their impulses, to recognize and obey social guidelines, to begin to consider other people. It's a long, slow, gradual process. Many times, it is accomplished in the very gentlest of ways.
Baby is nursing from a bottle. Being four months old, Baby is VERY interested in the sounds and motions around him. At every chirp of a bird through the living room window, at every flicker of sunlight through the curtains, his head swivels to the new sound. Baby's engagement with the world is delightful, but mommy is tired of struggling to keep the bottle in the mouth of her bobble-head child. Mommy holds baby in snug to her chest, and keeps the bottle against her breast. Baby can swivel his head, but if he wants to feed, he has to return to the bottle, and he does. When he has had enough that he doesn't return to the bottle, Mommy knows he's full.
This is discipline. In a very small way, Baby has had to modify his behaviour. In a very small, preliminary way, Mommy has said "Please pay attention. Please be considerate."
I've kept Laura waiting too long. I'm sure she has something to say by now!
Actually, Mary, I was just thinking how right you are that most people define "discipline" as "punishment," which is probably why Merriam-Webster considers our definition obsolete!
Your point that parents are most likely already using discipline without even knowing it is spot-on. So if parents are already using discipline then it might be helpful if we, as parents, evaluated the level of discipline we use and our expectations of our children, which determine that level. For example, my friend did not expect that children should or perhaps could use proper grammar before age 3, therefore, she never taught her son the correct pronoun.
What other kinds of behavioral expectations do we have for our children? Are those expectations too high, too low, or somewhere in between? Are they based on knowledge of development, intuitive theory, gender differences, or our child's lack or abundance of language? Perhaps they're based on something else like a subconscious need to keep our children babies for as long as possible, or, alternatively, to have them grow up as quickly as possible.
If we know what our expectations are and what drives them, then we can better understand how and when we choose to discipline our children. From there, we can evaluate if we're working at the appropriate level for them. This is why having a good knowledge base of child development is essential. While all children are unique, basic knowledge of emotional and physical milestones, coupled with keen observation of our children's behavior, tells us what they're ready for and what they're not so we can adjust our expectations and discipline level accordingly. We don't want to overestimate or underestimate our children's abilities -- at least, not habitually.
What do you suggest, Mary?
You are so right! Evaluating our children's abilities and knowing what motivates our expectations in order to determine appropriate expectations for our child(ren) is key. Absolutely key, and it is probably the hardest part of parenting for most parents. You know what behaviour you'd like to see (or not see!), but you don't know if it's reasonable. Can you ask for this now? Should you hold off? Do you want this because it's best for your child, or only because it bugs you so much? Is that wrong? Will you be pressuring if you do? Will you be selling them short if you don't? Parents can second-guess themselves into the ground with questions like these. Thing is, there's usually far more than one way to deal with any situation, so you can do all manner of things - and still be doing it right!
Your 14-month-old scales the dining room chairs at every opportunity, but doesn't understand where the seat ends, and so is in immanent danger of falling off ten times a day. What do you do? "Tell her 'No'!" and lift her down, every time, is the obvious answer. It will be effective, too. With patient, consistent repetition, she will learn not to climb the chairs. If your goal is to keep her off the chairs, this is an effective technique.
It's not the only solution, though. Not all parents have the time (or the patience) to lift a child down from the chair as often as she will attempt it. There is no shame in this. After all, you could be doing this All.Day.Long for a while. At 14 months, the urge to climb is probably such an intense drive that it may be simpler to block the room off with baby gates for a few weeks. However, keeping her off the chairs is probably, unless you have much nicer furniture than I do, not really the focus of your concern. You are probably more worried that she not fall off and break an arm!
In this case, rather than say "no", or barricade the dining room, you may opt to turn the chairs over when you can't be in the room or can't be assisting her up and down. In a few weeks, she'll have learned to climb down safely, and your dining room will no longer look like something out of a Frat House.
Sometimes a parent will do this, but will be feeling as if they've copped out, somehow. You haven't, of course. Sometimes a parent will say "I couldn't do that! The upturned furniture would be so chaotic, I'd feel totally tense all the time." This parent might feel their response is selfish. It's not. Your approach depends on your personality and your goals.
Absolutely, Mary. In addition to knowledge regarding development, intelligently observing our children so we know where they are developmentally and what comes next, we also need to consider our own personalities and goals. Keeping all these variables in mind simultaneously is no easy task, which is why we've started this blog.
In the end, the short answer to the "When does discipline start?" question is "as soon as the baby is born!" Discipline is about teaching our children how to operate in our world, our culture, and in our individual families. It is a collaborative effort involving input from both children and parents.
Developing this pattern of interaction with our children at the very beginning of their lives, while keeping in mind their developmental level, ensures we don't introduce discipline according to some arbitrary date. If our behavioral expectations are too low for too long but then rise suddenly and sharply due to some magical date, we only confuse our kids. We can't expect our 18-month-old to suddenly listen to us if we never expected him or her to listen prior to that age. Thus, we should always have reasonably high expectations that grow at a natural and steady pace so as not to insult our children's intelligence, because they are so very smart!
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